I do not experience others only as something in themselves, but also as something that is in me as much as I am in them. Habitually, I also perceive it as if others are trying to replace me in myself with their inner person there. Or that they try to defend themselves against my or any other’s presence of them there as if we where a threat to them in the same way that they are perceived as a threat to my existence there. In part, it is an instinctive drive for self-preservation that we share with all animals within us. Which we can transcend. But apart from this, we make others extras within us, and repeat for ourselves the attempt to replace us with what we were once exposed to in the totality we find ourselves in together with other people. So that abuse makes people constant proxies within us for the experience we have had of being displaced by those within us we have accepted the presence of in that whole we share with them. We also experience it with others when they deny us our natural access to dwell in there together with them. Which creates a feeling of exclusion, of being denied our basic relational needs to others in the whole of which everything is a part. Nor is it only people in our immediate surroundings that we find there, but also many who are no longer with us. Many times they are the ones we have to find our true relationships with in order to be able to have that with other’s in our physical reality. In this way, we don’t just do it to us, but we also help them to find their way back to this wholeness. Its like having a direct experience and explanation of the secret of creation, in its inner pre-existing connection with older traditional Sami ideas about the migration of the soul and its impact on us where the transition of the dead into the living and back to jabmeaimo again is the perpetual cycle of reoccuring psychic resurrections. Which is part of the multi-bottomed Saivo experiences we have of both a personal and a cultural psychic life.