There is a psychic wound that always appears in our interpersonal relationships. Which we usually do not see and therefore do not discover there. But we remain hurt and act on its influence on us. In defense of the relationship we have with our inner objective personality in a transferred form on other people, to protect the role he has in the whole that he conveys to us. Between us and others there is a couple that appear to us as our cultural and interpersonal ancestors. Máderáhttje and Máttaráhkká. But we experience them mostly in a deformed and transferred form in people around us. They first appeared to our person within through our parents and their embodiment of them. In what our person within was allowed to see in the relationship between us and ourselves that we developed based on their relation to them. In what they did allow in themselves in the relationship they had between them and themselves. Which then determined what we could allow in ourselves. Also, for us to fend for ourselves at an early age and to somehow make sense of the interpersonal experiences we have of the whole that where are part of. But our psychic wound does not allow it since we have a sense of feeling ignored and rejected by them in their transferred form. So we compel ourselves to live in the the deformation of what that entails because we know nothing else. But the totality that Máderáhttje represents within our psychic consciousness in a cultural and personal sense, that our fathers embody for us, is right in front of us all the time. Behind our defenses. In our constant disbelief, our criticism, our mistrust and inability to absorb what occurs between others and themselves of the intersubjective experience we have of our fathers as a reference of the one we ourselves have been exposed to through others when we unknowingly connect to them, and to the whole that we in. In our longing for a release from their mixed up shackles in what we cannot to relate to. We have lost Máderáhttje as the interpersonal relationship we have with ourselves and others culturally. In our psychic consciousness. He no longer stands for a natural connection to the whole that we share between us. Rather, it conveys a coercive and authoritarian deformation of us, which excludes it. We become mentally and emotionally mutilated and see ourselves in others through the psychic wound our defenses have created within us. Similarly, it is the same with Máttaráhkká and her fundamental relationship between us and that in others that Rádienáhkká conveys as our nature, our inner relationship to it as our mother in an interpersonal, embodied and cultural sense. To the ever-present psychic consciousness that affects us both from within and without. To the background of the cosmic night sky and its bodily connection to existence. Which is the within in everything around us and its presence in others. In what we are between us and others at the same time as it is in between them and themselves. Which we in our wounds defend in an aggressive independence from it. Not in our natural and instinctive defense of our integrity. She no longer conveys our inner relationship to nature as a whole around us. As a fundamental underlying care between us and others in the constant recurrence she implies which is within everything there. From them comes everything that we associate with morality and the inherent integrity of all life. They are our interpersonal fathers in men, and mothers in women’s, and part of our familys in the psychic consciousness of saivo. Without them, we will live in an extreme disrespect for what is in the interpersonal relationship between others and themselves, and what this means for us within us, in ourselves.